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Post by Seas on Oct 18, 2011 1:18:34 GMT
So. I plan to make a character here at some point and I could use some help. I've got two basic character designs that I'll write here for a lack of anything better to do.
#1. SherlockHolmes detective + scary housewife & mother Basics: Female, pokemorph of some dark bird (probably the little vulture one), genius, bisexual. Example: Is annoyed that she's already a pokemorph and so automactically knows Pok?mon language; would prefer to have the challenge of learning it. Problem#1: I need a picture for her and I can't draw and I don't know anyone to bribe. Problem#2: I would really, really like her to have a female lover in Solastella who she's searching for. Or something like that. Which means I need a role playing partner, which is why I intend to leave her for a while....
#2. Dancer boy + punk + helpless kid who actually isn't helpless Basics: Male, venomoth pokemorph, really modest, wants to be a dancer, gay. Example: Will never ever mention that he's really good with knives unless asked directly, which seeing how giddy he is, unlikely to happen. Problem#1: See above Problem #1.
#3. Tough guy, soft heart + wild child + prodigy Basics: Male, scarred, selfless, stubborn, type 4 pokemorph, ruthless, unbreakable morals, emotional, gay. Example: Betrays father for being a jerk to others. Problem#1: See above Problem #1. Problem#2: I don't even know what pokemorph he's going to be. I was thinking maybe shiny Flareon for goldness and specialness, but if so I'd like him to evolve from shiny Eevee morph and I'm not even sure that's possible. He needs to have claws and ears and a tail but otherwise I've no clue what Pok?mon he should be a morph of.
The problem with all of these characters, as you might've noticed, is that they are not straight. I don't know why; it's just the way they've turned out. But since I don't want to flood the site with gay (or bisexual) characters I'm only choosing one to do right now. I probably didn't explain that well but I doubt you, reader, care. Feel free to tell me if you do.
So. Help?
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Post by ZOM on Oct 18, 2011 2:38:03 GMT
first and foremost, i don't think you should worry about the fact that they're all non-straight characters. frankly i don't think the orientation really matters for the character as a whole, unless that is a very central part of their personality, and even then it shouldn't stop you from making them simply because you have a bunch; so they're gay, or bi, or whatever. so what? if you want them to be that then whether you have one who's gay or twenty, that's your choice and it doesn't matter worth a damn really haha! it's still perfectly feasible to have a lot of variety between the characters even if they are all non-hetero. at least, that's how i feel, although i may be biased i guess. i tend not to make a lot of straight characters... (although in concordance with what i just said about sexual orientation being a small and relatively insignificant feature of most characters, sometimes i don't even list my characters' orientation unless i'm asked to do so or feel that it's relevant/important.)
/steps off soap box
as for the pictures thing, i'm always happy to draw stuff up for people, but lately i haven't really had the time to draw much of anything, and when i DO have the time i don't have access to my tablet/photoshop x__x it's quite a pickle, that. i already owe crim like two character designs that i promised a couple of weeks ago... that being said, if you're willing to make the character without a picture reference or wait indefinitely for me to get something drawn up, i can definitely do that! just... i'm not sure when it would get done... sob. i miss drawing.
alrighty! and for character #3, he could possibly be a linoone morph? claws, ears, tail, and also it kind of plays with his personality ("unbreakable morals, stubborn") in the sense that linoone can only go in straight lines, right? so he's very linear and unshakable with his beliefs, idk. it made more sense in my head before i typed it up haha. alternatives... zangoose, pignite, stunky, growlithe, poochyena? i like the linoone idea best, but of course it's your character and your call haha! and the eevee to flareon idea would be neat, too, although i'm not really sure if pokemorphs evolve here. that'd be something to ask graz. i love the idea of evolving morphs, personally. it makes them seem a little less human and a little more Pok?mon, which i'm in favor of.
aaaaaaaaaaand finally, i may possibly be interested in playing the female lover for your fem-sherlock character? i'm not really sure yet, if only because i haven't even finished mackenzie yet and don't know how much i'll be able to handle with both torrenta and here once i get in the swing of it, but i do love the idea! so if it's been a while and no one else has expressed interest and you really want to make this character but need her lover to get made, too, drop me a line and i'll let you know how i'm feeling about my ability to make it happen, because i'd definitely LIKE to if circumstances allow.
WALL OF TEXT sorry l-lol
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Post by Seas on Oct 18, 2011 23:01:37 GMT
I don't worry so much as...well, I worry. It reminds me of those authors, the ones where 90% of the characters are gay. This bothers me when I'm reading it, and I'd hate to bother someone else like that. Also, I don't want to be known as the all gay character maker because I'm not. Generally.
But anyway, I've decided what I'm doing now. I'm making the cynical one and the detective girl. Butterfly guy isn't as fun.
Drawing -> I would be completely willing to wait for you to draw something for me. Knowing me, it'll take a long time to create the silly character so it won't be a problem.
Third Character -> Linoone are a little more ferret like than I was going for though I like the idea. I was considering Poochyena before so maybe one of those. I'll be posting up a little WIP bio once I figure it out. I want to use Rain Delays lyrics for him... And Graz says evolving pokemorphs are fine but not with restricted Pok?mon.
Lover -> That sounds great. I'm not planning to make her soon regardless, so there'll be lots of time for you to figure out how much time you have. And of course, I don't mind low activity as long as it's activity.
Don't worry about the WALL OF TEXT, it was a pleasure to read.
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Post by ZOM on Oct 19, 2011 2:26:28 GMT
fair enough! variety is the spice of life, they say, so there's nothing wrong with trying to vary up your characters' sexualities as well if you so choose, especially if it bothers you to not. in that case, if you're willing to wait, then i am certainly happy to draw something up ASAP! if you have any specifics you want worked into the characters' designs (particulars about which Pok?mon features they should have or should not have, preference for fashion sense or hair style or hair color, skin tone, eye color, facial features, etc etc etc) then drop me a PM with it all neatly bundled up so i can reference it when i get the chance to draw. and even if you don't have a whole lot of specifics in mind about the appearance, little notes about things the characters like or a brief summary of their personality and background would probably be enough for me to concoct something if you don't mind me taking liberties. favorite color would be a good thing to include, too, if it's relevant to what they would wear! ooh, nice to hear that evolving pokemorphs are alright! i may have to make a morph with that in mind... a caterpie or something that would have to deal with evolution twice. because i can't imagine that evolution would be a pleasant experience, and i am an awful character owner. aaand as for the lover character, that's good to hear. 8> i'll certainly let you know if i get any burst of inspiration for a character who could work, or even if i think that i will be active enough that we can get plotting! I AM GLAD YOU LIKE MY WALLS OF TEXT i like writing them~
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Post by ➤ GRAZ ! on Oct 19, 2011 16:08:46 GMT
Aha, well I could help draw if you need any (but I’m not as good at Zom), but I think Zom’s got all that done, and yeah, evolving Pokemorphs are fine. I mean, if you’ve got Pok?mon DNA it makes sense you’d evolve, right?
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Post by Seas on Oct 19, 2011 16:33:07 GMT
It does, but you know it never seems to happen in role play. I've always wondered why...
And Zom - thank you, that'd be wonderful. I know exactly what the femaledetective character will look like, but my lovely little Rain Delays lyrics character is being difficult. I may end up scrapping him and creating someone else similar. I'll let you know when I've made my mind up.
An evolving bug Pok?mon sounds like fun. And characters were made to be tortured and killed, so you're doing them a favour, really.
I wish I could write WALLS OF TEXT but alas, it is not to be.
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Post by ZOM on Oct 20, 2011 0:22:02 GMT
haha well nish, if you're able to get the job done quicker, then for seas' sake you could do the honors of drawing one of her lovely characters instead! i don't want it to be like i own the market on this stuff hehe. (your art is delightful hush.) it's up to seas, i suppose; i almost certainly will take quite a while to get arty things done (sob), so if nish drawing instead would be a faster option, and of assuredly equal quality, then by all means :0
(either way i may draw some fanart later hohoho)
i'm definitely considering something like a venipede-->scolipede morph, yes....... bring on the pain..............
I BELIEVE IN YOU, ANYONE CAN WALL OF TEXT IF THEY BELIEVE HARD ENOUGH ;u; BELIEVE IN ME WHO BELIEVES IN YOU!
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Post by Seas on Oct 20, 2011 4:07:59 GMT
...Forgot to reply to that. Graz, I'm sure your drawings are wonderful and I would be honored if you drew something for me. Just let me figure out what I need to be drawn first. And Venipede sounds fascinating, actually. I don't think I've ever seen a pokemorph like that before which is always good. Seems like a good type of character to torture anyway, can only imagine what you'd do with all that poison. So, I'm having a bit of a dilemma with my character's colouring. I'm not sure whether to make him gold or silver. What do you think? Oh, and here's a sort of basic description for my female detective since we're talking about drawings... Body: Tall and thin, with just barely there curves and small breasts Skin: An ivory color (similar to that of a Vullaby's shell) Hair: Spiky and black with a faint touch of dark gray (same colour as the Vullaby's 'hair'). It's cut short, bangs half an inch above her eyes, the back of her hair barely touching the back of her neck: pixie cut like. Eyes: A mix of orange and red, leaning more towards orange. Her black pupils make the colour appear a little darker than it does on an actual Vullaby. A slim line of black circles her eyes and tilts up at the end, making her look as though she's always wearing eyeliner. Face: Hawk like, watchful, clever, elegant, pointed. High cheekbones, stubborn chin. Clothing: A charcoal suit with a white and rusty orange striped shirt beneath it, perfectly tailored. She also carries a suitcase (black, sleek, modern) but there's no need to include that. Pokemorph Traits: She has a small, dark gray ring of ruffled feathers around her neck and dary gray and gray-black wings on the back of her shoulder blades; her suit has slits to allow them out. Her feet are more like talons; they have three 'toes' and long, sharp, gray 'toenails', though this doesn't show often because she wears black shoes, again tailored and business like. Links: Here's an upclose picture of a Vullaby, for most of the colours and such, and here's a picture of her suit, if it was dark gray and the shirt underneath had vertical rusty orange stripes on it.
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Post by ZOM on Oct 20, 2011 15:11:27 GMT
alternatively to the venipede, i'm considering a tentacool-->tentacruel. now THAT would be an awful transformation, what with all the tentacles.
ooh, this vullaby lady has style! i haven't drawn any suits in a while... hummmm.
as for the coloring of your male character, i'm not entirely sure. both gold and silver can look really cool, but they also kind of represent different things? it depends on what you're going for! and if you really can't decide, maybe you can find a way to do both.
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Post by Seas on Oct 20, 2011 23:53:39 GMT
It'd not be a fun pokemorph to be in the first place. I'm already feeling bad for this to-be-made character of yours.
I'm glad you think so. She's meant to have lots of style, but since I'm very not stylish I was worried about pulling it off for her.
I don't even know what I'm going for anymore. What kinds of things do you think gold represents? And silver? I think I'll put it off until I see what kind of pokemorph I can make him anyway, but it'd be nice to be sure about something.
EDIT: Character now has a backstory. It's so tragic it hurts and I feel even sadder for him than your poor evolution character. Cleared a few things up for me so now I know that if I'm allowed, I'm making him a shiny Eevee morph.
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Post by ZOM on Oct 21, 2011 16:16:16 GMT
oh gosh, i can't wait to read this guy's bio. i'm already prepared to feel bad for him haha! shiny eevee morph sounds lovely. c:
so out of curiosity, did you have anything in particular in mind for the personality of your vullaby lady's girlfriend, or in general some ideas about why they separated and/or why detective chick is searching for her, etc.? i'm kind of starting to possibly get ideas in my head, but i don't want to get ahead of myself before figuring out how to work it in with your character's story.
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Post by Seas on Oct 22, 2011 3:06:07 GMT
You should be. He made me depressed last night, though that could've been the three hours of sleep I got talking....and yeah, I would've done a Poochyena, but I want him to evolve and I don't want him to be a Mightyena morph. So.
I have three things firmly in mind for Vullaby's lady's (VL) girlfriend. 1. That she's determined. (She'll have to be, to deal with VL) 2. That she's very kind. 3. That she doesn't look too similar to VL. (Different hair and eye colour, different body type)
Those are really all I care about. Right now I see her as a gentle, sweet girl with long light brown hair, the type to care about, well, pretty much everything. But she could just as easily be a chatterbox who likes all things girly but has a heart of gold. Whatever you like, basically.
There's not much about their history that I've got set in stone. VL is a foundling child, she got seperated from her girlfriend (to add to the tension, they're sort of tenative girlfriends; friends who get together before a dramatic event thing) in said dramtic event, thinks she's dead at first, but then finds the 'clues' that prove she went to Solastella and follows. VL probably steals money or something like that to get there, but that's not important much - unless it was something bad that the girlfriend could get upset with her for. VL'd be frantic, so it wouldn't occur to her to be nice. Was thinking it might be interesting if the girlfriend doesn't remember or thinks no one's looking for her.
^ Those are my plots. Feel free to add your own in wherever and scrap some of mine. I don't mind. I'm sure we can work something out.
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Post by mint on Oct 22, 2011 6:33:49 GMT
JUST STOPPIN HERE FOR A SECOND.
"the all gay character maker because I'm not."
THAT WOULD BE ME.
/leaves
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Post by ZOM on Oct 23, 2011 3:11:58 GMT
i can definitely work with those notes there, for sure! i like the idea that perhaps she's forgotten VL or something of the sort; in my abnormal psychology class we recently learned about something called "dissociative fugue," if you've heard of that? it's when someone undergoes serious stress and then just... suddenly travels for seemingly no reason, getting amnesia (although it is reversable) and often taking up an entirely new persona in their new location because they can't recall anything about who they were or where they were before. it's fascinating, albeit pretty rare, but it'd be fun to play with in this case i think! and since it would be reversible, and VL's appearance would slowly bring her memory back, that would add an interesting element to it. it would be cool to play out, and would also explain her leaving to solastella.
i suppose what we'd want to figure out most is what the stressful/traumatic/dramatic/whatever event would be. if it was something that would give VL the idea that girlfriend was dead until she got some hints to the contrary, then hmmm... possibly an attempted murder, or kidnapping? not sure. thoughts?
as for her personality, i kind of imagine her being perhaps a chansey morph, and obsessed with helping anyone and everyone -- constantly volunteering at soup kitchens, going into social work and taking it upon herself to try and intervene if she sees something bad happening to even a total stranger. maybe that would be what leads to the dramatic event, like she tried to save a prostitute from her pimp or intervened with a drug deal or something kind of foolhardy and that was messing with the wrong group. alternatively, maybe something to do with VL's work, idk? just throwin ideas out there haha!
i don't suppose you have an AIM? that would probably be better for bouncing ideas back and forth so we can hammer out something definitive. if not then just continuing to post in here works, but worth asking haha!
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Post by Seas on Oct 23, 2011 20:39:34 GMT
Dissociative fugue --> I've never heard of this before, but it sounds perfect. It sounds wonderful to role play. I demand you give her dissociative fugue. And I wish I took psychology....
Dramatic event --> Maybe, VL being a detective working for the police (at the moment and it's subject to change), finds out about this drug ring or something else evil within some charity where girlfriend works. Girlfriend is the only person who VL's sure isn't involved and who will help her instead of saying 'you freak, stay away from me'. Girlfriend's skeptical at first, but then figures out what's going on. She knows name of people involved and where they plan to run to and tries to go to the police. Girlfriend gets kidnapped as she goes; only reason she isn't killed at first is because guy who's in charge has a 'crush' on her. VL figures out where girlfriend is being held due to 'clues' at the scene and runs after her, but finds only the guy ranting about killing her and no girlfriend. Girlfriend has escaped and run to Solastella. VL finds this out later through contacts or something, I don't know. Oh, and before girlfriend finds out these important things she's preparing to find out these important things and that's when they get together. It's a little messy, but I tihnk it might work. What do you think?
AIM --> What is this? I've no idea. I have this....windows messenger thing, apparently.
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